Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 17

03/21/2007 03:00 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+ HB 168 LAND TRANSFERS ALASKA RR & DOTPF TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
*+ HB 71 LICENSING RADIOLOGIC TECHNICIANS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 28 POWER SOURCE DISCLOSURE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 28(L&C) Out of Committee
HB  71-LICENSING RADIOLOGIC TECHNICIANS                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:25:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON announced  that the final order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 71,  "An Act  requiring licensure  of occupations                                                               
relating  to   radiologic  technology,  radiation   therapy,  and                                                               
nuclear  medicine  technology;  and providing  for  an  effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SCOTT   KAWASAKI,  Alaska   State   Legislature,                                                               
sponsor, explained  that currently, radiologic  technologists are                                                               
not required  to be licensed.   He noted that House  Bill 150 was                                                               
introduced during a previous legislative  session to address this                                                               
issue.   Several changes  were made  to the  aforementioned bill,                                                               
resulting  in  HB  71.    This  bill  would  license  occupations                                                               
relating  to  radiologic  technologists, radiation  therapy,  and                                                               
nuclear medicine technology.  He  stated that medical patients in                                                               
Juneau have received radiation high  above normal levels, and the                                                               
state is  currently investigating Bartlett Regional  Hospital for                                                               
issues  involving radiologic  technologists and  routine exposure                                                               
to patients.  This information will  be included in a report.  He                                                               
shared his hope  that the members would be able  to view this "as                                                               
further reason  for licensing  [radiologic technologists]  in the                                                               
state of  Alaska."  He  stated that this investigation  will also                                                               
reveal  that radiologic  technologists fail  to properly  protect                                                               
themselves   and   patients    when   administering   radioactive                                                               
materials.  He explained that HB  71 ensures that a certain level                                                               
of  expertise is  maintained by  radiologic technologists.   This                                                               
will allow  the public to  be confident regarding  the competency                                                               
of  the radiologic  technologist.   Regarding  small clinics,  he                                                               
stated  that   the  Alaska  State   Hospital  and   Nursing  Home                                                               
Association   (ASHNA)  and   Southeast  Alaska   Regional  Health                                                               
Consortium  (SEARHC)   have  both  stated  support   for  HB  71.                                                               
Referring to a program offered  in Fairbanks, he stated that many                                                               
radiologic  technologists  are  graduating with  credentials  and                                                               
living in rural  areas.  He noted that HB  71 contains exemptions                                                               
for   individuals  such   as  nurse   practitioners,  physician's                                                               
assistants, and  medical doctors.   He shared his belief  that HB
71 will  address concerns regarding radiologic  technologists and                                                               
protect the public.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:29:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CLYDE  PEARCE,  Radiological   Health  Specialist  (RHS);  Chief,                                                               
Radiological  Health Program,  Laboratories Section,  Division of                                                               
Public Health,  Department of Health and  Social Services (DHSS),                                                               
began   by  explaining   that   he   conducts  radiation   safety                                                               
inspections throughout  the state  for both  the State  of Alaska                                                               
and  for the  federal government.   He  said that  the DHSS  does                                                               
support HB 71.   The size of  the problem is not  known, as there                                                               
is  no registration  requirement  for  individuals operating  the                                                               
equipment.    However,  the  DHSS  is aware  of  those  who  have                                                               
received formal training and are  nationally certified.  Based on                                                               
inspections  around the  state,  the department  believes that  a                                                               
similar  number  of  individuals   are  operating  the  equipment                                                               
without formal  training.   This number is  estimated to  be 600-                                                               
700.  The DHSS is also  concerned with meeting the needs of areas                                                               
with limited resources.   He expressed hope  that the legislature                                                               
can  strike   a  balance  between   better  protection   and  not                                                               
overburdening the small providers.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:32:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER referring  to  a letter  from Mr.  Pearce                                                               
dated January 22,  2007, noted that there  are concerns involving                                                               
inappropriate  use of  equipment, in  addition to  malfunctioning                                                               
equipment.   She inquired  as to  whether the  proposed licensing                                                               
procedure would address these types of problems.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PEARCE  replied   that  the  bill  would   address  a  large                                                               
proportion  of the  concerns.   During  his  inspections, he  has                                                               
found  few  instances  of machine  malfunction.    Most  problems                                                               
involve  how  the   machine  is  used.    He   pointed  out  that                                                               
individuals  are required  to  be licensed  prior  to driving  an                                                               
automobile;  however,  over  40,000   people  die  in  automobile                                                               
accidents each  year.  While  there are many restrictions  on the                                                               
materials used to  make automobiles, the way the  vehicle is used                                                               
may  result in  deaths.   In regard  to radiologic  equipment, he                                                               
stated that  it is not  usually a  problem with the  machine, but                                                               
rather how  it is  used.   He opined that  this can  be addressed                                                               
through  proper  education  of those  individuals  operating  the                                                               
equipment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  stated that the aforementioned  letter is                                                               
included as  backup material  for the  bill, which  suggests that                                                               
these issues  are being  addressed.   She expressed  concern that                                                               
all issues included in the  letter are not specifically addressed                                                               
by the  bill.  She then  referred to a case  involving a facility                                                               
in Fairbanks that  was unaware of a gassy x-ray  tube, and shared                                                               
her understanding  that HB 71  would not address  this particular                                                               
problem.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PEARCE agreed  that  this particular  problem  would not  be                                                               
addressed.  He  reiterated that most of the problems  he sees are                                                               
related  to  the  training  and  knowledge  of  how  to  use  the                                                               
equipment safely.   There are some instances  where the equipment                                                               
has   failed,  this   bill  addresses   the  training   of  those                                                               
individuals operating the equipment.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  asked whether  there is a  procedure used                                                               
to routinely evaluate  or test equipment, and  whether Mr. Pearce                                                               
was  performing  a  routine evaluation  when  he  discovered  the                                                               
aforementioned gassy x-ray tube.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. PEARCE replied yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:35:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DONNA ROFSHOLM,  Chair, Legislative Committee, Alaska  Society of                                                               
Radiological  Technologists   (AKSRT),  stated  that   AKSRT  was                                                               
involved in drafting the language for  HB 71.  She explained that                                                               
AKSRT drafted this legislation to  address concerns regarding the                                                               
radiation   safety   of   patients,   along   with   establishing                                                               
educational  guidelines  for   operators  of  radiation  emitting                                                               
equipment.    These  standards would  ensure  that  all  Alaskans                                                               
receive quality  care during an  x-ray examination.  There  is no                                                               
"safe dose" of  radiation.  Patients are not aware  of the facts,                                                               
and  do not  know how  to evaluate  the safety  of the  procedure                                                               
being administered,  and place all  confidence in  the healthcare                                                               
worker  performing the  procedure.   Without a  licensure policy,                                                               
anyone can  take an x-ray with  minimum or no training.   Passage                                                               
of  HB 71  would establish  standards for  individuals performing                                                               
the  radiology exams.   The  DHSS  has documented  the misuse  of                                                               
radiation in the state.  She  opined that the public cannot blame                                                               
the  operators for  errors  made, as  training  is not  required.                                                               
Passage of  HB 71  would ensure that  the necessary  education is                                                               
received.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. ROFSHOLM  went on to  say that the  expense to a  facility to                                                               
license an individual would be the  same as the cost of one x-ray                                                               
procedure.   She opined  that this  is a small  amount to  pay to                                                               
ensure  patients safety.   She  explained that  training programs                                                               
sponsored by a  medical facility, supervised, or  instructed by a                                                               
licensed  practitioner  would also  qualify  as  education.   The                                                               
AKSRT wants to ensure that  any individual performing a radiology                                                               
procedure has a minimum of education.   HB 71 would not alter the                                                               
manner in which  small and rural clinics  operate, and recognizes                                                               
that  rural   areas  have  different  needs   than  urban  areas.                                                               
Provisions  in   the  bill  ensure  that   individuals  currently                                                               
performing x-ray  procedures will be  able to continue  doing so.                                                               
The training  is available  online, and may  be completed  at the                                                               
operator's  convenience.    There are  currently  37  individuals                                                               
enrolled in  the limited radiology  program.  She  explained that                                                               
these  individuals are  from rural  areas of  the state  and have                                                               
voluntarily  enrolled to  receive education  in performing  x-ray                                                               
procedures.    These  individuals will  receive  an  occupational                                                               
endorsement  from  the university  after  the  completion of  the                                                               
program.    The AKSRT  feels  that  establishing guidelines  will                                                               
promote safety and provide quality care to all Alaskans.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:40:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO,  in  regard  to the  amount  of  radiation                                                               
omitted, asked whether digital or film machines are preferable.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. PEARCE  explained that  the amount  of radiation  produced is                                                               
determined  by  technique  factors   that  are  adjusted  on  the                                                               
machine.  Digital imaging is  more sensitive than film, therefore                                                               
less  radiation  may be  required.    However, there  is  concern                                                               
regarding possible  misuse of digital  imaging, which  can result                                                               
in a higher level of exposure.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:42:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICK  URION, Director,  Division of  Corporations, Business,  and                                                               
Professional Licensing ("the  Division"), Department of Commerce,                                                               
Community,  &  Economic  Development  (DCCED),  stated  that  the                                                               
Division is  in support of HB  71.  He agreed  that public health                                                               
is in  jeopardy, and  licensure is the  first step  in correcting                                                               
the problem.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  asked how  many additional  employees this                                                               
would require.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  URION  replied  that  the   Division  would  hire  one  more                                                               
employee.   In  response  to additional  questions, he  explained                                                               
that the Division licenses qualified  individuals.  If complaints                                                               
are received,  investigators look into  this.  The  Division does                                                               
not  check to  ensure  that  all individuals  are  licensed.   He                                                               
stated that  this is not done  in any profession licensed  by the                                                               
Division.   In regard to  the consequences of operating  an x-ray                                                               
machine without  proper licensure, he  pointed out that  the bill                                                               
contains  several provisions  addressing this,  and the  Division                                                               
will abide by these.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  explained that  his concerns are  a result                                                               
of  recently   learning  that  businesses  operating   without  a                                                               
business license  in the state  were not  subject to any  type of                                                               
citation.   He  shared  his  belief that  doctors  would want  to                                                               
ensure that radiological technologists are properly licensed.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAWASAKI replied  that some  clinics do  not have                                                               
[certified] radiologic  technologists, and opined that  this is a                                                               
matter of cost versus health.   This bill would ensure that there                                                               
is a certain level of healthcare available across the state.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. URION, in response to  a question from Representative Neuman,                                                               
explained that  the test  to be  used has  been developed  by the                                                               
American  Registry of  Radiologic  Technologists.   The  Division                                                               
would  check  all  information  submitted,  to  ensure  that  the                                                               
individual meets the requirements set forth by the legislature.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:48:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAWASAKI  added that  the bill  does not  create a                                                               
board  for  this  reason.     The  bill  requires  that  national                                                               
standards are met, and explained  the process applicants would go                                                               
through  to  become  licensed.   In  response  to  an  additional                                                               
question, he explained  that the bill is  specific regarding what                                                               
the  commissioner  can  impose  for  the  license,  as  this  was                                                               
previously  considered by  the legislature.    He commented  that                                                               
some details  regarding administrative  duties have been  left to                                                               
the discretion of the commissioner.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  inquired as  to why dental  assistants are                                                               
not included.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAWASAKI  replied that  the bill does  not address                                                               
dental practice, as it only addresses radiologic technologists.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  asked if  this is  identical to  [HB 150],                                                               
which was  considered by  the House  Labor and  Commerce Standing                                                               
Committee during a previous legislative session.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAWASAKI  replied yes.  In  response to additional                                                               
questions,   he  agreed   that   the   definition  of   "licensed                                                               
practitioner" was included in the aforementioned bill.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX, referring  to  a letter  from Mr.  Pearce                                                               
dated  January 22,  2007  which notes  the  misuse of  equipment,                                                               
inquired as to  whether the equipment was  misused by individuals                                                               
that  are exempt  from  HB  71, such  as  nurse practitioners  or                                                               
physicians assistants.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PEARCE  replied that  the  individuals  responsible for  the                                                               
examples given are included in the bill.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  commented that a license  would provide a                                                               
tool  for clinics  to evaluate  whether or  not an  individual is                                                               
competent.  She expressed concern  with the problems mentioned by                                                               
Mr. Pearce  that are not addressed  by the bill, and  opined that                                                               
equipment should  be examined by  a person with knowledge  of how                                                               
it should work.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KAWASAKI   replied   that  there   are   federal                                                               
requirements regarding when the equipment should be evaluated.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER opined  that this is not  adequate, if one                                                               
survey has revealed a number of problems within the state.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. URION  shared his understanding  that Mr. Pearce is  the only                                                               
equipment  inspector   in  the  state,  adding   that  additional                                                               
inspections may be needed.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked whether dental  assistants were included in the                                                               
previous versions of this bill.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAWASAKI   replied  no.     In  response   to  an                                                               
additional question, he explained  that dental assistants are not                                                               
included for  a specific  reason.   He offered  his understanding                                                               
that the equipment used by dental assistants is not the same.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX asked  whether it  would be  worthwhile to                                                               
consider  regulating  dental  assistants  in a  future  piece  of                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAWASAKI replied that he would look into this.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO  surmised  that  "dental  techs"  might  be                                                               
covered under  the regulations set  forth by the  American Dental                                                               
Association (ADA).   He  pointed out  that dental  hygienists may                                                               
already have certification  and licensing.  He  commented that he                                                               
has  received  radiation,  and  is  "deeply  troubled"  that  his                                                               
technologist may  have not  known as  much as  he or  she should.                                                               
Referring to  House Bill 150, he  questioned why the bill  had so                                                               
much opposition.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAWASAKI  offered   his  understanding  that  the                                                               
Alaska Native Tribal Health Consortium,  along with the Division,                                                               
was previously in opposition to the legislation.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PEARCE,  in  response  to  a  question  from  Representative                                                               
Gardner, said that the Board  of Dental Examiners inspects dental                                                               
equipment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAWASAKI shared  his belief  that HB  71 enhances                                                               
public health in Alaska, adding that  if it did not, he would not                                                               
propose this legislation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   LEDOUX  commented   that  during   the  previous                                                               
legislative session, she  was under the impression  that the bill                                                               
addressed a  problem that did not  exist.  However, she  has been                                                               
convinced  that this  issue does  exist.   She expressed  concern                                                               
regarding rural areas  and whether "forcing the  best" may result                                                               
in  "nothing at  all."   She  opined that  members should  remain                                                               
cognizant of this,  and stated that she is unsure  of whether she                                                               
is in  support of  the bill, as  she needs to  find out  how this                                                               
will affect rural areas.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:02:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON stated  his intention to hold the bill  to allow time                                                               
for additional testimony.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN asked  about continuing education programs,                                                               
and whether these will be available online.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAWASAKI   replied  that  individuals   from  the                                                               
[Radiologic  Technology  Program  at the  University  of  Alaska,                                                               
Anchorage (UAA)],  can discuss continuing  education at  the next                                                               
committee hearing.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.   URION,   in   response    to   additional   comments   from                                                               
Representative  Neuman, stated  that the  Division would  like to                                                               
offer online  renewals, although  initial licensure will  need to                                                               
be examined  by the Division.   He then explained  how continuing                                                               
education units are dealt with in other professions.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

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